Interview for experience

Christian Slater and Brad Pitt seated across a table during an interview scene.
A better interview may have revealed this movie experience sucked

A transaction records the sale. Experience tells you whether the customer may come back again, or, as valuable, recommend to another.

Experience is what customers care about now. A transaction belongs to the old-school scorecard that digital marketing tore apart. The company can count a sale while the customer counts reasons to leave.

Good experience? Bad? Meh? The revenue report rarely explains the difference.

A customer interview protocol helps expose the gap between a completed transaction and a customer need fulfilled. What took too long? Where did the customer chase an answer? How much work did the company hand back to the person who paid?

Congratulations on the sale. The customer now has a part-time job.

Experience is the first change signal. Customer interviews give leaders a chance to understand the signal before another sales pitch adds another promise.

This post opens a four-part series on the Top Account Interview Protocol:

  1. Experience: What do customers encounter, and what must employees work around?
  2. Value Add: What work creates customer value, supports the business, or wastes effort?
  3. Success Measures: What evidence shows improvement in customer experience and business results?
  4. Alignment: What must change across structure, systems, supervisors, and skills?

Start with the experience behind the transaction. Ask a question. Leave room for an answer the dashboard cannot provide.

Experience should trigger change to happen through any number of feedback loops:

  • Client complaint,
  • A missed handoff,
  • A contract that takes too long to move,
  • A team that spends more time finding the right answer than creating the right value,
  • A manager who asks for one more status update because the system, process, or role cannot answer their question.

That signal is experience. Not the slogan, the realized experience.

Experience tells leaders where the operating model fails before the dashboard catches up. Customer experience shows how the market receives the promise. Employee experience shows how the business delivers that promise. When those two signals do not match, your organization has evidence that the operating model needs attention. The only question is whether leaders will see it soon enough.

Learn from Experience

To learn from experience you can start with an interview protocol of the simplest questions:

  • What business issue needs attention?
  • Service quality?
  • Product quality?
  • Speed?
  • Capacity?
  • Cost?
  • Morale?
  • Competitive pressure?
  • Regulation?

The follow-up question: if service delivery goes exactly as expected, what complaints do clients still raise from setup through delivery, invoicing, or sales to cash?

That question pulls the curtain back. It helps leaders hear the friction people already know, but often lack permission to name.

Seek repeated patterns from field interviews and across large organizations. Such as:

The common pattern: both sides experience cost when:

  • Clients wait,
  • Employees chase,
  • Leaders ask for scale,
  • The work asks for clarity

Activity vs. Accomplishment

This is why “activity” can deceive leaders.

The solution is not more:

  • More calls,
  • More meetings,
  • More check-ins, and
  • More internal status updates

More does not always create a better experience. Sometimes more just creates noise.

A sales team can report high activity while customers still lack trust, urgency, or a clear path to value.

A delivery team can report heroic support while the process still produces rework, delay, and avoidable escalation.

The issue is not effort. The issue is design.

Down in the Scrum

Scrum offers one useful management lesson. A daily check-in, borrowed from other Lean efforts as a dedication to a daily check in, has a more formal commitment with Scrum. The daily Scrum exists to inspect progress toward the goal and adapt the next day of work. The Daily Scrum emphasizes the focus to inspect and adapt within a 24-hour time-box. This 24-hour time-box allows the team to move forward collectively and collaboratively.

The daily meeting:

  • Improves cross-communication,
  • Identifies impediments,
  • Promotes quick decisions, and
  • Raises the team’s level of knowledge

Alternatively, assumptions create waste. Assumptions waste time and cause rework. The longer the time to check in, the longer the effort causes waste.

That principle extends beyond software. A business that wants to reinvent itself must shorten the distance between experience and response.

If clients wait three weeks before leaders notice the delay, the business does not have an experience problem. It has a feedback problem. The longer clients wait before the organization notices delay will compound customer experience problems.

If employees invent workarounds because systems, roles, or policies block value, the business does not have a motivation problem. It has an operating design problem. Employees create workarounds because systems, roles, or policies black value. A commitment to continuous improvement is an operating design that values motivation: happy employee:happy customer.

Experience is the first transformation signal because people feel waste before leaders quantify it.

Customers feel delay.

Employees feel rework.

Managers feel escalation.

Finance feels margin pressure.

Sales feels resistance.

The business feels all of it, then, too often mislabels the issue as performance. That is an old trick: blame the people, but ignore the system. And ALWAYS ask for better results.

Interview the Experience

A better path starts with experience interviews.

Ask what customers expect.

Ask where employees lose time.

Ask what work takes effort but creates no client value.

Ask where the business requires control but adds no confidence.

Ask what each role needs to deliver the promise the company already sold.

The goal is not to make everyone happy. Happiness is nice. So is a good cup of coffee, and neither one will fix a broken sales-to-cash process.

The goal is to make the work visible enough for leaders to redesign it.

Today every business already feels the pressure of faster customers, faster technology, faster competitors, and faster expectations. Going faster alone will not help. A wobbly wheel at five miles per hour becomes a full managerial rodeo at sixty. The answer is not speed. The answer is experience-based learning.

Experience reveals what the company must reinvent next.

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